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					| Lady #3: 
 VSGAL weighs in...
 
 Chivalry is not dead you know, it's just rare these days.
 
 Admittedly, women are fickle creatures, and their reactions 
					to being "hit on" often depend on their current mood. That 
					being said, if a women is looking irritated and angry, it 
					may be best to leave her be. However, I've also had the 
					pleasant experience of a man buying me a drink "because it 
					looks like you might need it, sorry you are having a bad 
					day" and thus sparks a complete change in my mood and 
					instead of an annoyed glare, I give him a smile, as the 
					gentleman has shown some much needed chivalry and his timing 
					was impeccable.
 
 My favorite way to be "hit on" is when a man starts with 
					polite conversation, and then buys me a drink. If I want to 
					flirt, I will do so. If not, then I usually make it pretty 
					clear that I'm not available but I do thank him for the 
					drink, etc.
 Examples: Excuse me, I haven't dined here before, what do 
					you recommend that is good?
 If I'm in a flirty mood: Why don't' you buy me a drink and 
					we can discuss it over cocktails?
 If I'm not in the mood: I recommend the steak, my husband 
					and I had it last time we were here. It's wonderful. he's 
					nearly here and will want another taste, so good luck with 
					your dinner."
 or some such similar line wherein I mention that I am taken 
					and excuse myself from conversing, etc.
 Most of the time, if she mentions her significant other in 
					the conversation - especially up front, she may be hinting 
					that you came on too strong, or she is not available and to 
					go bark up another tree - as it were.
 
 Grocery Stores:
 In my opinion this is not the best place to hit on a woman. 
					However, if you have seen her multiple times, and you 
					perhaps have had lighthearted-neutral chit-chat before 
					(perhaps you both reached for the same can in the fruit 
					aisle, etc) - the key is to START SLOW and build on it.
 "We keep running into each other, I may as well introduce 
					myself... "Hello My name is John" etc." and then see how the 
					conversation goes.  Then
 "Would you like to get a cup of coffee sometime?" and if she 
					goes along with it, gradually build up to lunch, then dinner 
					date, etc.  Don't rush into the "come over at 7pm, I'll 
					have a candle-lit dinner waiting for you" - it just isn't 
					the appropriate time or place for that sort of thing.
 
 Perhaps invite her to a social function like "Some friends 
					and I were going to go out for drinks at 7pm, I'd love it if 
					you could join us. Feel free to bring a friend if you 
					prefer."  That works because you aren't pinning her 
					down to one-on-one time with you, but yet if she goes, you 
					will definitely have a chance to talk more with her.  
					Also if she is allowed to bring a friend, it makes her feel 
					more at ease and more likely to see you.
 Typically though, women are shopping for a set purpose or 
					reason and standing around the produce near the stinky 
					onions is not the place to catch a man or a woman.
 
 Just my 2 cents.
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 My best advice to would-be-suitors is to approach a woman in 
					public at a restaurant or bar or dining event or other 
					social function:
 
 DO:
 Try to get a feel for her mood before approaching her.
 Open the door for her if applicable.
 Smile, be friendly.
 Do be kind, gentlemanly, respectful
 If she's at a bar and there's a stool next to her, you may 
					walk up and speak to her, but do not sit down unless 
					invited, or she indicates she is not waiting for a companion 
					to join her.  Or if its the only seat available, ask if 
					it is taken... etc.
 Ask if you can buy her a drink.
 If she wants you to leave, please DO make yourself scarce.
 Respect her space
 Understand the difference between neutral chit-chat and 
					actual interest. If you aren't sure, ask, usually it is 
					pretty obvious.
 Be witty, humorous, and fun.
 Find common ground in the conversation. Tell her about your 
					job (briefly) then ask what does she do for a living? etc.  
					"Oh wow you must have to be a multi-tasking genius for that 
					job..."  Flatter her a bit but in a neutral way, then 
					work up to the heavy stuff.
 Make light humor part of the banter, and as you go you can 
					work in some innuendo or flirtatious-ness. But don't overdo 
					it in the beginning of the chit-chat.
 
 DON'T:
 Be smashing drunk when you hit on a woman, it most likely 
					will not go well.
 If she's alone at a table, DON'T Go sit down next to her 
					without her invitation, although you may send her a drink 
					perhaps?
 Don't immediately start telling her she is cute, hot, 
					adorable, etc. It is better to weave that into the 
					conversation later on.  If you tell her that too soon, 
					it is TOO obvious that you are hitting on her and she may 
					not appreciate your lack of finesse.
 Don't continue hitting on her, if you notice she is married, 
					with her boyfriend, waiting for her boyfriend, or otherwise 
					TELLS you she is expecting another male to join her soon.
 Don't be leering at her.
 Don't use foul language.
 Don't stick around if she's made it clear she wants you to 
					leave.
 Don't get her in personal space and try to get a better look 
					at her cleavage. That is just rude.
 
 
 So, in short, be a gentleman. Start chit-chat with neutral 
					topics and light humor, then work your way up to the part 
					where you ask her out.
 Be witty, fun, and aware of her mood. If you do ask her out, 
					ask small: coffee, a small group social function where she 
					is with other people and not solely alone with you, etc. 
					Work your way up to the romance, don't rush it.
 
 Good luck guys!
 
 
 Sincerely,
 VSGAL
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