Right.  And in my opinion, and there is a lot of data to support this, but I will go on record saying it is my opinion; kids are obviously scared into not having sex when they’re 12. Well okay, that’s not a real hard sell; 12 year olds are stupid and generally not very horny.  But then they become 14 and 15 they’re still stupid and now they’re horny and they figure out that something you told them was a lie. You’ve told them a lot of lies when they were 12, but the problem is, you told them like five things that were true and one thing that was a lie and now they don’t believe any of it.  Because, after all, if you told me five things and one of them was a lie I’m not going to take your word for anything that you tell me.  Now all the sudden they’re like, ‘Wait a minute, I’m not going to fucking get cancer if I have sex. I’m just going to go fuck every body…Did you use birth control?  That’s probably a lie too; you can’t get pregnant your first time.’ So then they start exchanging information amongst each other and there is nobody dumber than a horny 14 year old.  But they start teaching themselves and you wonder why are they doing this we gave them a class?’  The class was filled with lies and opinion; all you did was scare them.  These kids are masturbating and it feels pretty fucking good and now they want to have sex and they don’t know where to go because they know they can’t trust you so they just make it up.  But the one thing that they do, and you don’t have to look very far to find this out, is have sex.  They do have sex.  This abstinence education thing is not working and it's not preventing people from fucking, it is just preventing them from having sex in a responsible way. 

Or admitting that that are. 

Right the lie is fascinating. 

Which goes into adulthood. 

Unfortunately yeah, I think that some of these beliefs that people hold about sexuality into their late 20s and 30s and even longer is misinformation they learned when they were 14 and they probably learned it from their 14 year old boyfriend or girlfriend.  Well, you learned the incorrect information but this stuff sticks with you.  The beliefs that you hold dear at 15 you tend to cling to for awhile and this is problematic.  It’s like you said about being Catholic, a lot of Catholics feel guilty about sex.  Do you know why they feel guilty about sex? Because someone told them to when they were 14 and some people who are 40 years old still feel bad and they have no idea why.  It’s because they got misinformation when they were a kid and they can’t get over it psychologically because, you know, their brains were mush.  Then it formed around this lie and they don’t know what to do with it because if they admit that that was a lie then their whole world comes crashing down.  What else was a lie? What other misinformation they’ve been fed?  And I’m not trying to get into some political debate but if all of this stuff about sex was a lie was all this stuff about being a good person a lie?  I don’t know, probably not, that’s not fair but it starts to waiver. Maybe we’re wrong about this too and where does it end? So, you just hold firm on everything and unfortunately a lot of the things people hold firm to is just misinformation and it’s scary.  It’s scary misinformation. 

Is it fair to compare sex addiction to something like drug addiction, because drug addiction is a physical thing that drugs do to your body?  The addiction, like nicotine or crack, you are physically addicted.  Sex is more of an instinct and, like you said, you’re either naturally driven or not.   It’s a chemical, but not in the same way that a drug would be, so is it even fair? And also, could sex addiction be another mental disorder, for example, you’re obsessive compulsive and you’re acting out in sex? 

Obviously anything can be an addiction, where do you draw the line? Literally everything can be an addiction.  If I spent 20 hours last week trying to get laid and you spent 20 hours last week working on your magazine, are you addicted to your magazine?  People would be like, ‘No, that’s her hobby, she’s just working.’  I’d say, well, this is my hobby. ‘No you’re an addict.’  I think the term ‘addict’ has its own bias and stigma attached to it and when people found out I was having a lot of sex that’s what they always said.  ‘You’re addicted and you need to stop.’  But nobody told me that I was addicted to a sport, no one has ever sat me down and said, ‘You know, you spend an awful lot of time watching TV, I think you might be addicted.’  Words are very powerful.  I don’t know that sex addiction exists. You can do anything too much. There’s nothing wrong with washing your hands but some people wash their hands until they bleed. They’re not addicted to hand washing they have another disorder.  There are probably not sex addicts, they probably have some other mental illness; they have obsessive compulsive disorder or high anxiety or some sort of biological brain based disorder that manifests itself by having a lot of sex.  But it isn’t the sex that they’re addicted to, it’s sort of the ritual, or the routine, or the concept.  But again, people that wash their hands until they bleed do not have hand washing addiction.  No body would say that they’d say, ‘That’s stupid. What the fuck is wrong with you? He does not he does not have a hand washing addiction, he has obsessive compulsive disorder.’ Okay, that guy has a lot of sex. Sex Addiction.  If one’s true then that validates the other one and if ones false it invalidates the other one, so, since there’s no such thing as a hand washing addiction there’s probably no such thing as sex addiction.  But, again, society has decided to use this term for anybody that has sex that some how hinders their activities of daily living as SEX ADDICTION!